Hello, all A friend and I are currently building a high current coil gun for our senior design project at the University of Maine. Recently we have been trying to optimize the coil design, and I believe we are relatively close. Here is what we have so far: We know that amp-turns (NI ? a.k.a. Magneto-Motive Force) is the most important factor when designing the coil. Our power supply is a bank of large electrolytic capacitors (47 mF) charged to 340 volts. We are also setting a current limit of 100 Amps, even though the HVIGBT we have is rated to 400 amps continuous. Based on these numbers our coil resistance has to be 3.4 Ohms. So basically what we have found so far is to get the highest NI do the following steps: 1) Select the largest wire you can afford 2) Wind as many layers onto the barrel as needed to make the necessary resistance. What we are not taking into account is the length of the barrel, and the thickness of the coil winding. Right now we have a barrel (and projectile) fixed at 1 foot long. And the coil windings have no limit. At a certain point the distance from the center of the coil has to start making a big difference correct? How do you determine the best length and coil windings? By shrinking the length of the barrel you create more force on the projectile, but that force is over a shorter distance. Also how do you calculate inductance with J.A? I have looked at several examples and it does not make sense to me. Included is the femm model of our coil, and the matlab script I wrote to help us determine the optimal number of layers. Thanks in advance for your help, Samuel Ace Winchenbach University of Maine Electrical Engineering swinchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx /==== snip ====/ Our barrel is 5/16? in diameter, a foot long piece of garolite. It has an inside diameter of ¼?. We are currently using 18 AWG magnet wire, with 0 series resistance. EDU>> help CoilOpt function CoilOpt( BarrelDiam (in), CoilLength (ft), WireDiam (mm), ResPerkm (Ohms/km), SeriesRes (Ohms), Voltage (Volts), CurrentLimit (A) ) EDU>> CoilOpt((5/16),1,1.0668,20.9,0,340,100) ----- Non-Optimized Coil Packing ----- | | NI (Amps*Turns): 2.783180754224393e+005 | NI/L (Amps*Turns/CoilLength): 9.131170453492102e+005 | J (Amps/Meter^2): 8.559402374851990e+007 | CoilWidth (Meters): 0.010668000000000 | | Resistance (Ohms): 3.481627984561275 | Current (Amps): 97.655465060504994 | | WireUsed (ft): 546.538946954199220 | Number of Layers: 10 | Turns Per Layer: 285 | N (Total Turns): 2850 | -------------------------------------- ----- Optimized Coil Packing ----- | | NI (Amps*Turns): 2.838475142859972e+005 | NI/L (Amps*Turns/CoilLength): 9.312582489698071e+005 | J (Amps/Meter^2): 9.036465157159652e+007 | CoilWidth (Meters): 0.010305559007572 | | Resistance (Ohms): 3.755185253889620 | Current (Amps): 90.541471861562101 | | WireUsed (ft): 589.481415986892440 | Number of Layers: 11 | Turns Per Layer: 285 | N (Total Turns): 3135 | ---------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1701E.528767E0 Content-Type: text/html; 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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>We know that amp-turns (NI – a.k.a. Magneto-Motive Force) <span class=GramE>is</span> the most important factor when designing the coil.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Our power supply is a bank of large electrolytic capacitors (47 mF) charged to 340 volts. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Weare also setting a current limit of 100 Amps, even though the HVIGBT we have is rated to 400 amps continuous. Based on these numbers our coil resistance has to be 3.4 Ohms.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So basically what we have found so far is to get the highest NI do the following steps:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Select the largest wire you can afford<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wind as many layers onto the barrel as needed to make the necessary resistance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>What we are not taking into account is the length of the barrel, and the thickness of the coil winding.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Right now we have a barrel (and projectile) fixed at 1 foot long. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And the coil windings have no limit.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>At a certain point the distance from the center of the coil has to start making a big difference correct?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>How do you determine the best length and coil windings?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>By shrinking the length of the barrel you create more force on the projectile, but that force is over a shorter distance.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Also how do you calculate inductance with J.A?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Ihave looked at several examples and it does not make sense to me. Included is the <span class=SpellE>femm</span> model of our coil, and the <span class=SpellE>matlab</span> script I wrote to help us determine the optimal number of layers.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Thanks in advance for your help,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Samuel Ace <span class=SpellE>Winchenbach</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><st1:place><st1:PlaceType><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>University</span></font></st1:PlaceType><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> of </span></font><st1:PlaceName><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Maine</span></font></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Electrical Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><a href="mailto:swinchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx">swinchen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>/==== snip ====/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Our barrel is 5/16” in diameter, a foot long pieceof <span class=SpellE>garolite</span>.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It has an inside diameter of ¼”.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We are currently using 18 AWG magnet wire, with 0 series resistance. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>EDU>> help <span class=SpellE>CoilOpt</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=GramE>function</span> <span class=SpellE>CoilOpt</span>(<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>BarrelDiam</span> (in),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>CoilLength</span> (ft),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>WireDiam</span> (mm),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>ResPerkm</span> (Ohms/km),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>SeriesRes</span> (Ohms),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Voltage (Volts),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=SpellE>CurrentLimit</span> (A)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>EDU>> <span class=SpellE><span class=GramE>CoilOpt</span></span><span class=GramE>(</span>(5/16),1,1.0668,20.9,0,340,100)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>----- Non-Optimized Coil Packing -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| NI (Amps*Turns): 2.783180754224393e+005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| NI/L (Amps*Turns/<span class=SpellE>CoilLength</span>): 9.131170453492102e+005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| J (Amps/Meter^2): 8.559402374851990e+007<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| <span class=SpellE>CoilWidth</span> (Meters): 0.010668000000000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Resistance (Ohms): 3.481627984561275<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Current (Amps): 97.655465060504994<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| <span class=SpellE>WireUsed</span> (ft): 546.538946954199220<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Number of Layers: 10<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Turns <span class=GramE>Per</span> Layer: 285<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| N (Total Turns): 2850<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>--------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>----- Optimized Coil Packing -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| NI (Amps*Turns): 2.838475142859972e+005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| NI/L (Amps*Turns/<span class=SpellE>CoilLength</span>): 9.312582489698071e+005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| J (Amps/Meter^2): 9.036465157159652e+007<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| <span class=SpellE>CoilWidth</span> (Meters): 0.010305559007572<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Resistance (Ohms): 3.755185253889620<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Current (Amps): 90.541471861562101<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| <span class=SpellE>WireUsed</span> (ft): 589.481415986892440<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Number of Layers: 11<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>| Turns <span class=GramE>Per</span> Layer: 285<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt; 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