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Re: Problem with FEMM
--- In femm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Meeker <dcm3c@xxxx>" <dcm3c@xxxx> wrote:
> --- In femm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "zifera <emiliano.menghi@xxxx>"
> <emiliano.menghi@xxxx> wrote:
> > Dear David and Femm users, i've a big problem with Femm and i hope
> > that you want help me.
> > I use FEMM to computate the shielding effectiveness (low frequency:
> > 50-60 hetz) of plane aluminium screen (tickness 3 mm, lenght 2 m).
> > The source is a triphase cable system with simmtric current (500 A).
> > The distance between the conductor is 25 cm. The position of the
> > screen is simmetric respect the conductors (the conductors are in
> > plane)
> > The problem is that near the screen the magnetic field (calculated
> > along a line parallel to the sceen) is not simmetric!! For distance
> > bigger than 50 cm magnetic field return to be simmetric. Why?
> > I've tested the same configuration with a commercial fem (Ansoft) and
> > the result is equal.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Emiliano
>
> If I understand your geometry correctly, I don't think that the field
> distribution here should be symmetric. Essentially, if you've put
> three-phase conductors in a line on top of a plate, you've made
> yourself a linear induction motor. A wave of flux travels from one
> side of the plate to another, and you can get a funny looking total
> field when you include the reaction field from the plate.
>
> When viewed from far away, the combined field of the three wires in a
> row begins to look like that of a dipole whose strength varies
> sinusoidally with respect to time. The field then looks a lot more
> regular.
>
> Dave.
I send you an example of the configuration.
In this case the screen thickness is 3 mm and the lenght is 1 m
You can plot B along the line (-200, -100; 200, -100)
Bye
[Format] = 3.0
[Frequency] = 50
[Precision] = 1e-008
[LengthUnits] = centimeters
[ProblemType] = planar
[Coordinates] = cartesian
[Comment] = "Add comments here."
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[BdryProps] = 1
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<A_2> = 0
<Phi> = 0
<c0> = 0
<c1> = 0
<Mu_ssd> = 0
<Sigma_ssd> = 0
<EndBdry>
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<J_im> = 0
<Sigma> = 58
<d_lam> = 0
<Phi_h> = 0
<LamType> = 0
<LamFill> = 1
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<d_lam> = 0
<Phi_h> = 0
<LamType> = 0
<LamFill> = 1
<BHPoints> = 0
<EndBlock>
<BeginBlock>
<BlockName> = "Lead Alloy"
<Mu_x> = 1
<Mu_y> = 1
<H_c> = 0
<H_cAngle> = 0
<J_re> = 0
<J_im> = 0
<Sigma> = 4.6699999999999999
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<Phi_h> = 0
<LamType> = 0
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<BeginBlock>
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<LamType> = 0
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<BHPoints> = 0
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<VoltGradient_re> = 0
<VoltGradient_im> = 0
<TotalAmps_re> = 400
<TotalAmps_im> = 0
<CircuitType> = 0
<EndCircuit>
<BeginCircuit>
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<VoltGradient_re> = 0
<VoltGradient_im> = 0
<TotalAmps_re> = -200
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<CircuitType> = 0
<EndCircuit>
<BeginCircuit>
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<VoltGradient_re> = 0
<VoltGradient_im> = 0
<TotalAmps_re> = -200
<TotalAmps_im> = 346.41016000000002
<CircuitType> = 0
<EndCircuit>
<BeginCircuit>
<CircuitName> = "zeroo"
<VoltGradient_re> = 0
<VoltGradient_im> = 0
<TotalAmps_re> = 0
<TotalAmps_im> = 0
<CircuitType> = 0
<EndCircuit>
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