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Re: [FEMM] Reg : Coil Turns in serie/2conductors parallel



Hello Santiago,
i made a very similar simulation.
I suggest you to define 2 circuits named COIL and COIL1 carring 5000A each and then associate one bar to COIL and the other bar to COIL1.
Due to simmetry of coil the 2 bars have the same lenght and the distribution of current is the same in each circuit.
You can evaluate the z component of "Force via Weighted stress tensor" .
You can evaluate the current distribution in each turn and total power losses.
If you need evaluate power losses for each single turn you need to set a circuit for each turn.
If you need evaluate the radial force per unit of lenght  you can use the virtual work principle as described in my previous post "Radial Force in axsysimmetric problem".
Finally i suggest to use Asymptotic Boundary Condition as described in Femm manual appendix A.3.
 
I added a sample file named Coil10kA.fem
 
Best regards
 
Fabio Milanesi
 
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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FEMM] Reg : Coil Turns in serie/2conductors parallel

Hi Prem Kumar, C


Thank you for your proposal, but i am trying to calculate with FEMM the losses for EACH conductor and not only the total losses of the coil, also the losses in 5*2=10 conductors, because the losses are very, very different from conductor to conductor. It is very important to calculate the losses from each conductor!!

The model is Axisymmetric.


Thank you

Santiago Salamanca

 

C.Prem Kumar schrieb am 05.03.2004:

Hi Santiago,
I understand you'd like to model a coil of FIVE turns carrying a current of 10,000Amps. I take it that the coil has two thick strands since you are also specific about 5000Amps per turn.

If what I've understood is right this is the way to go about :

  1. Represent the coil overall physical cross-sectional area in your model without bothering about the interturn space.
  2. If the model is Axisymmetric assign the current value "5000*5*2" that is 50,000+ j0 as Total Current via the Circuit Properties. Do not forget to assign it a name.
  3. If the model is 2D, you will have the coil represented as two sections. Via Circuit Properties assign +50,000+ j0 as the Total Current on the right-hand section. Give it a name. Assign -50,000+j0  on the other section. Give it a different name.
I hope I've clarified your doubt !!

Prem Kumar, C

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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:42:19 +0100
From: Santiago Salamanca <santiago@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [FEMM] Coil Turns in serie/2conductors parallel
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Dear Dr. David Meeker,
Hi all,
?How to define a coil with turns in serie, but each turn has 2
conductos in parallel?

By Coil5Tparal i have defined a coil with 5 Turns in Serie, but
each Turn has 2 conductors
A conductor:18*10; Conductor-Isolation:4mm, Turn-Isolation 10mm.
The length of the coil is:5*18*2+5*4+4+100240mm.

The circuit current 10000 A, also 5000A/conductor as "serie"
?How to define the conductors, as Group1 and Group2??Is that all
right?
?Or how to define it?

Thank for you help

Santiago Salamanca


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